View from the choir

I am a Catholic layperson and Secular Franciscan with a sense of humor. After years in the back pew watching, I have moved into the choir. It's nice to see faces instead of the backs of heads. But I still maintain God has a sense of humor - and that we are created in God's image.

Friday, May 29, 2009

A Pro-Life Invitation To Two Deacons And A Bishop

Deacons Thomas Driscoll and Anthony Sciolino have drawn criticism for their involvement with noted abortionist Morris Wortman in a Holocaust program.

There's one way they can show they are really pro-life, and that perhaps Wortman's abortion record got lost in their concern about the Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis: They can join us June 13 and march for life.

Imagine the message they could send to Wortman, and the healing they can provide to the Catholic community.

Imagine how this would link the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust with the abortion holocaust of today.

So Deacons Driscoll and Sciolino, please join us.

And I would love to see Bishop Clark also take part. He is pro-life, and this would help to make a real statement for life in Rochester. It would also help to silence some of his critics.

So please Bishop Clark, join us.

If all three made it, what an event that would be!


Anonymous Anonymous said...

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11:18 PM  
Blogger Rich Leonardi said...

Good for you, Lee, to offer the invitation.

11:40 PM  
Blogger Lee Strong said...

Dr. K. - He is pro-life - I remember in January attending a pro-life prayer service with him present.

But he has not been open and public about it.

Imagine if he joined us on the 13th, or the Rochester contingent at the March for Life in Washington next January. Maybe he will.

8:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is pro-life, but he's not a strong pro-life spokesman.

6:13 PM  
Anonymous Todd said...

Ah yes, the echo chamber emerges, Lee. You're stuck now.

The Catholic Right now administers it's own brand and standards on being pro-life. "Toe our line or you're toast."

Really nice.

For an example of a truly Catholic approach, see and imitate Lee. For an example otherwise, note posts one and four.

8:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Todd, your idea of a Catholic approach is the Jim Callan approach. You're the kind of person who thinks not offering universal health care is as bad as a woman who kills her child through abortion. Typical Catholic leftist, you care about the social gospel but you ignore the rest of it.

9:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Todd, what Lee said does not at all contradict the two posts you are chastising. Nobody is denying Bishop Clark is pro-life, but we all seem to agree that he doesn't do a heck of a lot to support the local pro-life community. He is much more concerned with trying to promote a women priesthood, but you'd probably be enthralled with that idea since you care little for the doctrine of the Church.

9:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To clarify: Bishop Clark gives lip service on abortion, but he isn't out there on the front lines marching in front of Planned Parenthood, in Wash. D.C., or elsewhere. Instead, he offers an interfaith prayer service for Barack Obama at the Cathedral on the day of an important Pro-life protest. Obama being a man that many in our diocesan administration have been in love with, including a local SSJ who submitted a LTTE to the D&C praising Obama's election.

But if the "Catholic" approach in your eyes is holding interfaith prayer services versus supporting the local Catholics in fighting for the justice of the unborn, then I pity you. You must have a faulty idea of what it means to be a Roman Catholic.

9:47 PM  
Blogger Lee Strong said...

anonymous 9:31 - Don't mix Todd in with with Jim Callan. As I've noted previously, Todd left that parish because of the things Father Callan was doing. He is not a follower of Jim Callan - he rejected what Callan was doing.

10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I slipped that in because he called into question the Catholicity of the persons in the 1st and 4th posts when he said "For an example of a truly Catholic approach, see and imitate Lee. For an example otherwise, note posts one and four." This is something Rich Leonardi was criticized for in another post, so I didn't find it fair for Todd to be able to throw a punch that others can not use against him.

Still, I stand by the rest of what I posted.

10:51 PM  
Blogger Lee Strong said...

Just keep Callan out of it and deal with the topic at hand.

And Todd, please quit baiting people.

6:31 AM  
Anonymous Todd said...

For the record, I didn't question the Catholicity of the people who posted one and four, just their words.

Bishop Clark's pro-life duty, nor does any of ours, extend to "supporting" some of those who oppose abortion in the sense of giving them something to cheer about.

Bishop Clark doesn't show up at your meetings, rub shoulders with your leaders, march or rally with you? It might be that he's a closet abortionist, but it's more likely he has priorities other than chum with a group that has been critical of him. Some of you feel averse to my criticism of the pro-life approach, but that doesn't make you any less of a Catholic or pro-life because you don't like engaging with a pro-lifer who is different from you. It shows you are human--that's all. Just like your bishop.

My gentle suggestion is to consider that criticizing people, even bishops, because their pro-life priorities are different is a fruitless and counterproductive effort. You reinforce the unattractiveness of the pro-life movement and defeat your own purposes of persuasion.

As for baiting, I offer a different viewpoint. I did it at Corpus Christi. I do it here. Nothing much has changed. If you think I'm a bother, get off your computers and start talking with the radical pro-choicers. When you're finished, you might be glad you have a bishop and a movement with some diversity behind it.

For the record, I'm not ashamed of my six years at Corpus Christi. I met many fine people there, people who are still friends, and others whom I've lost touch with over the years, but whom I still remember with fondness and love. The community of that parish, the people who were the grassroots, were what made it as good as it was in the 70's and 80's.

10:15 AM  
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