View from the choir

I am a Catholic layperson and Secular Franciscan with a sense of humor. After years in the back pew watching, I have moved into the choir. It's nice to see faces instead of the backs of heads. But I still maintain God has a sense of humor - and that we are created in God's image.

Wednesday, October 22, 2008

A letter to Barack Obama (excerpts)

A letter allegedly written to Barack Obama was sent to me. I do not know if it was actually ever sent to him - it could be just one of those internet things - but even if it wasn't it does raise some questions and pulls together some interesting points, especially when it comes to Barack Obama's loose ways with the truth.

I'm posting part of it here -

*The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that proved you had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

*The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr.Rezko a couple of times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

*Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008, about "race" contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said that you never heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about white America.While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on March 14.

*In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea without "preparations" at lower levels ... Joe Biden repeated your words in his debate with Sarah Palin ... while the video tape from your debate last February clearly shows that you answered "I would" to the question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without "any" preconditions.While your judgement about meeting with enemies of the USA without pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America in the debate with McCain.

*On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgement about military strategy as a potential commander-in-chief is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.

*You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal, while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed immediately... not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now claim. While your judgement about removing our troops unilaterally in 2007 is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about your previous position.

*You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with Chuck Lugar ... and it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in concert with the (Democratic Party) and that you have the most liberal voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the (Democratic Party). While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is that you distorted the truth.

*In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have talked with a "Captain" of a platoon in Afghanistan "the other day" when in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been deployed to Afghanistan. You lied in that debate.

*In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a "professor of Constitutional law" when in fact you have never been a professor of Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you"taught a law class" and never mentioned being a "professor of Constitutional law." You lied last spring.

*You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You distorted the truth.

*You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted like both of you for a tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the voting record clearly shows that John McCain did not vote as you and Joe Biden. You lied to America.

*You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of the time with the president because you have been missing from the Senate since the day you got elected. While your absence from your job in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the facts.


*During your campaign, you said: "typical white person." "They cling to their guns and religion." "They will say that I am black." You played the race card. You tried to label any criticism about you as racist. You divide America.

*1. You lied to America. You lied many times. You distorted facts. You parsed your answers like a lawyer.
*2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your advertisements.
*3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal political gains and then lied about those associations.
*4. You divide America about race and about class.

*Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the mainstream media will not give adequate coverage or research about your lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race baiting, lack of operational leadership experience, and generally dishonest character. The media is diverting our attention from your relationships and ignoring the fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is much more important than the relationships themselves .... just like with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon ... Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that those men lied about the events ... false witness ... perjury . Your relationships and bad judgements are bad on their own . But your lies are even worse.

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Now, to be fair, McCain has also been guilty of playing fast with the truth. This has not been a a election year of which we can be proud. But my sense is that Obama has a major problem with the truth.

And being a pro-lifer - an area that is not dealt with in the letter - I am afraid of what he might do.

2 Comments:

Blogger Unknown said...

The content of this letter is not valid. Read here - References all included. Go to the articles referenced and you will find the content do not match what this guy is claiming:

Anderson Cooper discussion w/ Obama re: Rev. Wright:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/19/obama.interview/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than
what you previously admitted. Not true. Read the full article for which specifies otherwise:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html?_r=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin


“The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you
had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you
previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr.
Rezko a couple of times a year.” –
No such article found for Chicago Sun, May 8th. on Chicago Sun’s website. Did find one for March 15th interview but does not say anything about “a couple times a year” as this letter is stating:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/844634,obamasun031508.article

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/766605,CST-NWS-obama30.article

Reportedly, over the course of many years, Rezko has also raised money for Republicans: former Illinois Governors Jim Edgar and George Ryan,[1] the late Rosemont, Illinois Mayor Donald Stephens and he co-chaired a multimillion-dollar fund-raiser for President George W. Bush in 2003
Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rezko

McCain – Showed support to Acorn – keynote speaker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbT3WpeSN54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qytuaimbk6U&feature=related


McCain’s campaign manager, Rick Davis, a longtime lobbyist; Mr. McCain’s confidant and adviser Charlie Black, whose firm worked for Freddie Mac for several years ending in 2005, and the deputy campaign finance chairman, Wayne L. Berman, a vice president for Ogilvy Worldwide and a former Fannie Mae lobbyist plus others:
Six of his advisers and fundraisers lobbied for Freddie Mac including:

• McCain’s Current Chief of Staff Mark Buse,
• top McCain adviser Charles Black,
• Carlos Bonilla,
• Al D’Amato,
• Juleanna Glover Weiss
• Susan Molinari.

Thirteen of them lobbied for Fannie Mae including:

• McCain’s Congressional Liaison John Green,
• Head of VP Search Team AB Culvahouse,
• Wayne Berman,
• Kirk Blalock,
• Alberto Cardenas,
• Kirsten Chadwick,
• Richard Holht,
• Kate Hull,
• Aleix Jarvis,
• Tom Loeffler,
• Peter Madigan,
• Allison McSlarrow
• Aquiles Suarez.
Countless References:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/politics/24davis.html

Time Magazine:
http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-memo-on-alleged-mccain-ties-to-fannie-freddie/

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-keating7-2008oct07,0

12:29 AM  
Blogger A Secular Franciscan said...

The entire letter not valid? No. There can be debates about parts of it - including some that I left out - and some parts focus on certain points to the exclusion of others, but it does raise valid points. And the main thrust is that Obama has consistetnly been less than truthful.

The New York Time article about Ayers, for example, does not portray Obama and Ayers as close friends, but it notes: "A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63."

Obama's original claim was that Ayers was just some guy in his neighborhood and that he had served on a board with him. It has gradually proven to be more, with Obama only grudgingly admitting things as more documentation has come out. I woud nto be surprsed if more ties surface over time given what's come out so far.

Another point, germaine to the pro-life nature of this blog, is Obama's lie about his vote against an infant born alive act. He said he did not support it because it did not a protection of Roe v Wade contained in a similar fedaral statute, but the bill had been changed in committee - OF WHICH HE WAS A MEMBER - to contain that protection. Yet he still did not support it, and lied about it having that protection. When it was pointed out that he was not telling the truth about the bill, he called the accusers liars - even as the evidence showed he was lying.

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