New York's new pro-abortion Catholic Senator
Governor David Patterson has appointed Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand to replace Hillary Clinton in the Senate.
Listing herself as a Catholic, Gillibrand is pro-abortion (100 pecent rating by NARAL), pro-embryonic stem-cell research, pro-government funding for birth control.
Catholic?
And she's described by some as a conserative Democrat? Well, she apparently doesn't favor gay marriage (just civil unions), and is opposed to some forms of gun control , so by New York Democratic Party standards I guess she is conservative.
posted by A Secular Franciscan | 3:26 PM
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A person can be identified as pro-abortion if they have performed or profit from abortion, otherwise the moniker usually means "someone-who-doesn't-agree-with-us."
Of course, one can apply the same standard to Dick Cheney and say he's pro-murder.
Sheesh. Did you really think a Democratic governor was going to appoint a pro-life senator?
I use two terms for people who support keeping abortion legal.
Pro-choice means they support it, but are not outspoken on the issue, and may even support some pro-life legislation - like parental notification, or against partial birth abortion.
Pro-choice is reserved for people who are outspoken on the issue and are extreme in their support - like Obama.
Gillibrand got a 100 rating from NARAL, supports birth control funding and embryonic stem cell research, and yet lists herself as a Catholic. That's what tips her over the edge.
I expected a pro-choicer form Paterson.
As for Cheney - I have said a number of times that he's a convicted war criminal.
I think I read you, Lee, but it's a more acceptable practice to permit people to self-identify their positions. Otherwise, you've just been suckered into name-calling like much of the rest of the blogosphere.
As for her position within the party, who knows. She's your new senator, not mine. I consider myself liberal to the left of democrats, but I'm pro-life. Go figure. I don't think abortion is a deciding issue on whether a person's left, right, D, or R, although I'd concede there are trends.
I too am liberal on some issues - like the War in Iraq, the death penalty, immigration policies, and health care for all.
I consider myself consistent life, not just pro-life.
I get uneasy giving the pro-life label to people who are pro-death penalty, inclined toward war, etc. So I sometimes describle them as "pro-life on the issue of abortion."
Maybe you just should refrain from labeling people, eh?
But ... she is a Senator :-).
Anon - But the Franciscan in me keeps whispering that you and Todd make a good point.
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